For the stays I've decided to use Simplicity 8579 - one of the 18th century patterns Simplicity produced as a collaboration with American Duchess. I'll be altering it somewhat to lace up in the front as well as the back, since back-lacing only stays sound difficult to put on one's self without assistance. Stays with lacing up both the front and the back are a historically accurate option and would seem to be more user-friendly.
I do not enjoy making mock-ups whatsoever. Now, I do know their value, and I've never regretted making a mock-up (and have regretted not making a mock-up), but I just generally don't like making them. Thus, I've avoided making my mock-up stays, and thus my actual stays as long as possible.
Due to my immediate need of an 18th century outfit, my time of mock-up avoidance was forced to an end last week. I made my mock-up. Out of cardboard.
18th century stays are often fully boned, thus more rigid than a Victorian corset. Making a fully boned mock-up sounded tortuous. (This is part of the reason I've avoided making a stays for so long.) However, a few months ago, I learned in one of the 18th century sewing groups I'm a part of on Facebook, that non-corrugated cardboard (like the stuff cereal boxes are made from) works well for making stay mock-ups. The stiffness apparently nicely simulates the structure of fully-boned stays. This concept made the stay mocking-up process seem a lot more approachable.
I just so happened to have two large sheets of this type of cardboard on hand. So last week I traced my pattern onto the cardboard, cut it out, taped it together, punched holes in the edges for lacing, and tried the cardboard stays on.
They actually looked like stays! And they fit pretty darned decent! And took way less time to make than a fabric mock-up would have! There were only a couple small fit changes I needed to make.
First I lowered the armscyes slightly so they wouldn't dig into my armpits.
Then I took a bit of width off the top of the center front edge for better bust support.
I laced myself back into the cardboard stays, and. . .
So now that the pesky mock-up stage is out of the way, I can cut out my actual stays, sew them up, then make this dress:
A sacque-back gown, which will be machine sewn, in a rather inaccurate fabric. But, I'll tell you all about that later. Right now I'd better get to sewing all the boning channels on my stays!
Oh boy I can't wait to see that dress. It will be fabulous as always!ReplyDelete
I understand you don't want to make those stays over and over to get the fit right. Looks rather time-consuming for a muslin. Yay for cardboard ;-)
Thank you! Yay for cardboard indeed!Delete
What a clever idea! I would have never thought of it. I am learning so many time and frustration saving techniques from your blog.ReplyDelete
This is going to make stay mock ups so much easier.
Thanks! I can't remember where I found the idea, but someone else definitely came up with it first and it's the best! I honestly can't believe how easy this was!Delete
Great idea! I've made two corsets and they were a total pain. Too bad all muslins aren't that easy!ReplyDelete
I know! Muslins are generally the worst!Delete
I need new stays, and might use the cardboard technique. Glad you shared! Here's a pointer: try to have a 3-4 inch gap in the back because your stays will stretch a lot and then the gap will be narrower when you lace them. On the other hand, if you do full boning, that will take up some of the width.ReplyDelete
Thanks for the fitting tip! I really appreciate it!Good luck with your new stays!Delete